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Gio Gonzalez Offer Flatly Rejected

November 22, 2011

This morning, Clark Spencer of the Miami Herald’s Fish Bytes Blog wrote about the latest in the murmurs we hear about a Gio Gonzalez to the Miami Marlins deal. He wrote,

“While the Marlins have spoken to the A’s about a possible trade for lefty Gio Gonzalez, Oakland’s demands for the Hialeah product — specifically, some sort of package containing either Logan Morrison or Mike Stanton — have been flatly rejected. Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle suggests in her blog that the A’s, based on their history, could hold out for a premium deal involving prospects for the 27-year-old All-Star (see their 2007 Dan Haren trade), and the last time I looked, the Marlins aren’t exactly bursting at the seams with highly coveted prospects.”

It is nice to see Billy Beane doing a go big or go home with Miami here. This rumor sort of backups the previous rumor of a deal that’d have sent Morrison, Ricky Nolasco and the Marlins’ #1 and #2 prospects Oakland-bound for Gonzalez. I must say however I am surprised that the Marlins wouldn’t go for – by my reading of this – any deal that involves Morrison. In a fascinating piece also out of the Miami Herald earlier this week, Dan LeBatard wrote,

“The Miami Marlins, changing even their name to fit a changing country, are looking to become Latin America’s team, catering to the fastest growing minority in the United States, throwing unprecedented dollars at an experiment that will prove, once and for all, right there on Calle Ocho, whether Major League Baseball can indeed work in our weird and wonderful market.”

One would think the acquisition of a homegrown star of Latin American descent like Gio would fit well into that narrative, yet it seems like the club is balking at trading Logan Morrison of all people – a player who is more famous for his Twitter feed than anything he has done in 185 games on a Major League Baseball field. Morrison was a 1.0 WAR player, and while I’d like to see him on the A’s and think he will be better than that with time (he is only 24) if you talked straight up Gio Gonzalez for Morrison that deal would be a terrible one for Oakland. If the Fish don’t want to include Morrison or Stanton, I just don’t see how a deal gets done.

Spencer in his piece, via Slusser talks about how the A’s want a Haren-like haul for Gio Gonzalez – something that frankly is completely reasonable to pry away such a good young left-hander – furthermore given his ties to Miami one has to think he is more valuable to the Marlins than he might be to another club. Haren, who was packaged with Connor Robertson went to Arizona bringing back a haul of Brett Anderson, Chris Carter, Aaron Cunningham, Dana Eveland, Carlos Gonzalez and Greg Smith. For perspective’s sake Baseball America had the D-backs sending their 1st (Gonzalez), 3rd (Anderson), 7th (Cunningham), and 8th (Carter) prospects to Oakland along with two other guys. Florida meanwhile is hesitating over Morrison who has been worth 2.2 WAR in 185 career games, with a .259/.351/.460 slash line, .353 wOBA, and 25 home runs in 812 plate appearances. A guy who has been a poor defender at that. I am not knocking Morrison here, but if you as an organization aren’t willing to trade a guy like him to get a frontline starter – how the heck do you expect to get a frontline starter?

If things do not change, it looks increasingly likely that Gonzalez will not be going to Miami. The Yankees are a constant rumor generator – it seems he is destined go somewhere this offseason, could New York be that place?

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8 Comments leave one →
  1. elmaquino permalink
    November 22, 2011 7:54 pm

    Nice try at least. I’da said “yeah, right, dude,” but at least he made an effort

    • November 23, 2011 12:13 am

      Which direction are you not liking the deal?

    • elmaquino permalink
      November 23, 2011 12:13 pm

      Giving away Stanton or Morrison

      • November 24, 2011 11:31 am

        You have a proven left-handed pitcher in Gio Gonzalez without injury concern or a pitching motion that would portend a coming injury… I get not dealing Stanton, but holding onto Morrison? If somehow they were offered a 1-for-1 deal Morrison to Gonzalez that’d be an unbelievable steal for Miami. Gonzalez’ worth is easily worth more than Morrison and one can argue more than the two put together.

  2. SC_Athletics fan permalink
    November 23, 2011 8:59 pm

    I’m just curious why Beane would be selling so low on Gio Gonzalez? The Athletics have plenty of offensively underperforming, low UZR outfielders. If the Marlins don’t want to get serious about Gio, Beane needs to move on to another team or just hang onto Gio in 2012.

    • November 24, 2011 11:38 am

      If it were 1-for-1 for either Morrison or Stanton would be a terrible deal (less so if it were for Stanton than Morrison) but either packaged with prospects I think would be a good call. The Marlins’ system doesn’t have much to offer though and nothing near-MLB ready, so it seems that to offset that and the high risk with prospects who are in the Carolina League, you need to offer more of them to make it a more palatable offer. I just don’t see Miami tossing out their top prospects at this point – but you never know…

  3. Dow permalink
    December 12, 2011 7:34 am

    Gonzales isn’t worth close to the package Haren yielded. I could see the desire of relating the two in value, but he’s just way too suspect with all those free passes.

    • December 12, 2011 10:14 am

      I wouldn’t say Gio isn’t worth close to the package Haren yielded. I think while not worth the same level as Haren he also is not that far off. The walks are certainly a problem, but Gio also K’s more (8.6 K/9) than Haren had at that point (7.0 K/9). Gonzalez also is a year younger than Haren was. With Haren also the Diamondbacks had him at two years of a higher salary ($4.0M and $5.5M) with a club option for 2010 (based on appearances), whereas a team that acquires Gio has less of a payroll burden and three arbitration years. So while not entirely analogous to one another I think that they are very close comps.

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